(2 Peter 1:16-21) Once you buy the package of believing these people have a special place with and word from God, you are their prey and will be brought under their witchcraft and control (2 Peter 2:19). We were involved with the youth leaders, and we even gave them quite a bit of land in Lake Ozarks. , Aug. 23, 2007). Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. Many Christians are posting about the prophecy again believing that these events are connected. So I knew instantly, the first minute he prophesied his acceptance; so I knew he was the false prophetno question in my mind.(P.His, p. 14), Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. What make this a concern is that Alice Bailey, a spokesperson for the New Age Movement, described violet (or purple) light as a catalyst for bringing about healing: [There are]four groups of angels that are bands of servers who are pledged to the service of the Christ [the New Age Christ, not Jesus], and their work is to contact man and to teach them along certain lines. False prophecy can be a catalyst for false, counterfeit revival, moves of God and ministries! Quoting Jesus on the last days: Matthew 24:11And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many. (NASV) Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. (NASV). There is no detailed information available concerning his spiritual life upon leaving the mental ward. This is disconcerting, considering the demonic influence in his life just prior, and esp. Believe for more. Because when my hands turn purple it means youre getting through to the Royalty; youre getting through to the top. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. This man is not right! Yes its possible to disqualify ones self from public ministry! . Bob was preceded in death by his parents, Lester and Verlon Jones; his first wife Viola Jones; his brothers Wayne and Roy Jones. Ernie Gruen Report p.41 (bob Comes To Kansas City Fellowship) 4. According to, Bob Jones when he was 13- The first time I ever seen the white horse was when an angel called Gabriel was riding. But in these last days, He speaks to us through His SON. And Jesus said, SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES for they testify of Me. John 5. Incorruptible flesh will they have, andthe lightning in their handswill be the hiding place of their power(Bob Jones, tape,Visions and Revelations,1988). I saw him a couple of times in the 70s, I didnt understand what it meant, I would just see the white horse(Mike Bickle interjects) The white horse always speaks in Bobs visionsIn his vision it speaks of the corporate purpose that God is bringing to pass (ibid. In 2020, GOD TV reported about Bob Jones' prophecy on the Kansas City Chiefs. They are listening to tails. 2, p. 2). Start your day together with God and the GOD TV team. The Holy Spirit invaded the denominations. Mike BicklesWierd Church In St. Louis Sheffield Family Life Center April 17, 1990 Dear Ernie: Greetings in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ! Add to thatthe funeral was held in my church; I preached the funeral message and gave an invitation to accept Christ, and several young people took Jesus as their Savior that day. (Testimony Letter 11), The church member:At the maximum, six people of all ages died over a 2-year period, from March 29, 1976, to January 12, 1978: a. Dennis Wagner, age 19;. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 2040s will reveal the kingdom of God. The 5 fold ministry is found in Eph.4:11 and there is no priesthood mentioned, it is about equipping the church. So we realize that; so whats our reaction to that? Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. Bickle later related that during his trip to heaven Jesus commissioned him to be one of Gods new generals to lead his end time army. . Visitation will begin at 5pm. As you know, that church fell to pieces a little later. Really a profit submitting to a preacher? When he visited Father Divine in New York, he brought along four valets, four bodyguards, three secretaries, his housekeeper, a hairdresser, three musicians, 60 singers, a personal cook, and a dietitian. Men that looked like drugs because that was the god they served on earth In hell you will serve the god that you served on earth.. Lord is there anything we can do? This was the only other recorded death in the church in a 2-year span. Later, Mike Bickle stated publicly that he had promoted Jones improperly. The 5th edition of this book, November 2014, is significantly enlarged and revised throughout. And I was there. His gift was very strong and reliable yet Bob never preferred to be called "Prophet Bob Jones." He was just brother Bob. THE GOLDEN EARRING BOB JONES: "This . The term "prophetic" never appears in Scripture, much less phrases invented by modern wolves such as "prophetic praise," "the prophetic," "prophetic warfare," "prophetic worship," etc. We trust that your Christian honesty will preserve the integrity of this policy. Bob Jones' prophecy. Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. hes went to bed at night and woke up the next morning with a big red streak across his face or a big cut, gash on his arm. I would say that if this is the direction of the church, listening to men like him we, *I want to thank Al Dager whose book I read 18 years ago. , December 2004). Paul Cain, Mike Bickle (and others) are friends to his ministry and were involved in the prophetic movement that entered the Vineyard church under John Wimber and are now part of the new apostolic reformation of Peter Wagner who was friends with Wimber. And of all things, the doctor. - www.wayoflife.org. So we are too immature to have prophets be right all the time? Help me, Lord Jesus. SUMMARY AND OBSERVATIONS a. But he is back on earth! I am passionate in sharing Gods love to the world through the skills and talents God has blessed me with. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061. , from its inception, has been marred deeply by moral scandals and deception, and nothing has changed. You know, you think that would scare hell out of them, but it didnt- -they started runnin to drugs and alcohol to forget it, and they went into immorality. According to Bob, God revealed to him, in a vision, that revival would come when the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl. And what youll do, youll proclaim it. Adams is facing . There visions can mean anything they want as they use allegorical interpretations for their visions, as comets and floods all have an accompanying spiritual meaning that makes sense only to the initiate. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. Does this make sense or is it more correct that these prophets are not 100% right because they are not speaking for God who is ALWAYS 100% right. But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. Bob Jones- a Tail of a Prophet. I am in St. Louis pastoring, and a man namedAugustine Aculacomes through town. Next was Chuck-JOHNEL on February 10, 2018. This where the influence on the new revival is seen with Bentley and others- it is a Latter Rain delusion that targets the youth, if we allow it. Bob spoke about deep spiritual things in simplistic parables but . Jones always went first class. Incredible as it seems, Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. Goal:Distributed by Way of Life Literature Inc., the Fundamental Baptist Information Service is an e-mail posting for Bible-believing Christians. Hi. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. And you can take a little of that fire and impart it wherever it is needed. b. . , Dr. William Nolen dedicated an entire chapter to his investigation of Kuhlmans healing crusades. The demon speaking to him in the hospital, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. I warned them about a motorcycle. But, he says, Im going to minister. And he says, My first task is to get you to believe it. I said, What movement? He said, You dont know nothin, do you? I said, The Lord just told me to come here; I dont know a clue about anything., MB: So Bob Jones comes in..And I remember his first words, as he goes, Ive seen you. And I said, And Ive seen you. And he said, Yeah, I thought you probably would. And what I meant was that I had had a prophecy about a false man that was coming. when the prophetic is supposedly leading the way. Sharing Policy: Mikes whole ministry was riddled with false directives, false prophecy and revelation, and false doctrine. Prophet Bob Jones went home to be with Jesus on 2-14-14, a day of LOVE. The 1980's began to reveal the Prophets of God; people that get the inspired word. Weeks was also forced to move out of his $2.5 million country club estate. Before Gods Spirit is actually poured out in Israel and then to the world there is another spirit that will increase to bring in the false Christ, that will be empower people to do great signs and wonders by neglecting doctrine. Mike Bickle asked him in a dialogue You say that you saw the throne room? . But he just cant seem to get the accuracy level past first grade prognostics. Maybe Jones can point to the examples in Scripture where God used lightning for a fire. Theyll move in the power that Christ did. By his own acknowledgement, MB: Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people.. a prophet or apostle, there is a huge denial, out of naivety and fear, not knowing the Scriptures nor correct Biblical response. And miracles and everything else, and got anointed by it. . . Other items we sell to help fund our expensive literature and foreign church planting ministries. Unless the LORD builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Ps.127:1 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. ! 487 pages, available in print and eBook editions from Way of Life Literature -- www.wayoflife.org, THE PENTECOSTAL-CHARISMATIC MOVEMENTS: THE HISTORY AND THE ERROR, www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. Youre already bowing down to that altar of incense. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. The church was birthed by the Holy Spirit , yet Jones is speaking of a new birth to a new breed of youth that will have power only despots covet for. Barry says there was an old Bob Jones prophecy from the early 2000s (I think 2005) where Bob Jones said "first the honkers would come, then the Eagle!" Because the Lord told Bob that he was to come to help establish clarity and faith in the hearts of those young people so that when they believed, then there would be a whole new ability for the Lord to work in our midstwhen we believed the things about this movement. The third was Billy Graham on February 21, 2018. And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. Required fields are marked *. Go kill them or forgive them, Shortly thereafter in 1974 Bob begins having technicolor visions-often between 5 and 10 a night-and supposedly for the next 15 years. RUN from this witchcraft which is designed to bring you under the control of Satan's warlocks pretending to have a word for you as a prophet of God! They will give instruction in the effect of colour in the healing of disease and particularly the efficiency of violet light in lessening human ills and in curing those physical plane sicknesses which originate in the etheric body. Little or no Scripture is ever mentioned. It is this story that we will focus on at the outset of this article. Since that time he has seen many, many times five to ten visions and dreams a night. Do you need a new Bible or Christian Gifts? Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. , We need not wonder whether He [Jesus] will come back; HE CANNOT. Isaiah 9:15: "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. Now the Lord is saying that before the apple tree blooms this spring . Transcribed by Sandy Warner, www.thequickenedword.com The following is the Word of the Lord through prophet Bob Jones with Todd Bentley at the Lakeland Florida revival, 5/13/08 evening service, via God TV. It was after Ford threatened to sue, that Crouch paid almost a half-million dollars to keep the matter quiet. (Isaiah 53:5-6, John 6:29, Romans 4:5, First Peter 3:18). I have, however, heard from quite a number of our people who used to attend the Fellowship. Bob refused counsel, refused to be under the subjection of the shepherd, and took off for other churches where he would be free to make his predictions. Bob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, The grandiose vision of the Movement was, in fact, expanded by a whole series of visions that Bob Jones supposedly had between 1974 and 1983. Many will say this not a few. This is hardly the case as they use Revelation 19:10-11 as a proof text. . For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. .until he met Mike Bickle. Full updates of Bonnie Jones' and or Lyn Kost's ministry available at. Anyone interested in this subject matter should read Vengeance is Ours. Like Daniel who functioned at an incredible level, Bob has often told leaders their dreams and experiences, as well . You stood before the Lord BJ: He was showing me a throne room and He was showing me a seat that I needed to sit in one dayand there was a guide that stood in front of me, and he was like red sunglasses (F88, p.2-3)/, http://www.bobjones.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page= 2020202020Photos202620Bio 27s2020202020 Bob Jones Web Site, When only seven years old and walking on a dirt road in Arkansas; the Arch Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones on a white horse and blew a double silver trumpet in his face. What kind of Jesus is this that Jones presents to the church? The 1950s reveal the power of God. Ford wrote his testimony of the affair, but it was sealed by the courts after Crouch sued to have the matter squelched. I said, Five or ten a NIGHT!! Naturally I rejected the prophesy as being false & was in turn rejected by them for being false. That is a lie. These were young family men. This is no small error, it should be considered a heresy that changes the nature of God and man. You are welcome to make copies of these at your own expense and share them with friends and family, but they cannot be posted to web sites. I watched one interview on TV where the translator was trying to salvage what appeared to be the ramblings of a man that was not coherent in his speech and had to reinterpret nearly everything said. The office I humbly have been annoitied for is a Prophet my territory is the "USA" I'm so excited and so young full of Hope and deeply honored to know Jesus and honor his great . This angel is supposedly at work with freshfires revival meetings. And were looking through the seeds and thisll be your grandkids. Sir Bob Jones gave up drinking a year ago and says he still feels like a young man. magazine, and pastor of the 2,000-member Tabernacle Church in Melbourne, Florida. Naturally I rejected the prophesy as being false & was in turn rejected by them for being false. And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. An analyst's insight Critically looking at the prediction, what is clear is the Bob Jones did not predict the opposing teams score and this very strongly decreases the probability of an incorrect intuitive guess (e.g. 2, 1993 appearance in Columbus, Ohio, indicating that he would be sitting in seat 4C (first class) on both legs of that trip, and the air fare would be $728.17 Likewise, his October, 1992 trip to Cleveland cost the Ministry $855, and again, he was sitting in the first cabin.18 But . A must read. I would have this comment on the supposed fact that two young people on a motorcycle was proof of his predictionWill and Judy Pliska were accidentally killed by a Christian man who grievously attended the funeral service. Bob and Bonnie Jones Ministry. , December 2015, Bakker agreed with Tom Horns prediction that the Antichrist will come in 2016. , June 3, 1988, p. 5). If this is accurate, (and there is not reason for him to say this unless it is), then the signs and wonders manifested by Jones and other prophets may not be from God at all. Early years. Bob spoke about some things to occur, and gave Mike a personal, seemingly, supernatural word of prophecy, that convinced Mike he was from God, throwing out all of the red flags and other warnings, embracing everything Bob said, and actually building his ministry upon Bobs revelations! And miracles and everything else, and got anointed by it. A statement issued by Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, and Mike Bickel said: Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration, which the three of us would oversee. He admitted that his churchs emphasis on prophecy and mystical experiences had been unhealthy and destructive (Grady, p. 103). It will eventually dawn on most people that this is error, but only after many lives are destroyed. Mike Bickle dates the very beginning of their Movement to the first supernatural experiences of Bob Jones. Crouch denied the allegations and tried to blacken the character of his accuser, which was not difficult to do, as Ford is a convicted sex and drug offender, but it seems very strange that Crouch would pay such a large sum to a man if there was no truth to his allegation. The Rev. Whats more, the prophecy said it would be a sign of a revival coming to America. all the angels were looking through these and every once in awhile theyd say, Hey, heres an end-time one; get it down here on the end. How are we to view this? They were sick at heart for months and months. (F88, p. 26 27)In another message in 1986, Mike Bickle described the story a little differently: MB: he (Bob) was involved in one church. We say, Lord, we dont throw out prophecy. Bob Jones. And the Spirit of Elijah falls upon prophets. As such we prayerfully rely on the support of our readers/listeners. (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988.). , April 11, 2009). He said, Oh, were collecting those who are foreknown and predestinated for the end-times, for you see, theyll be the best of all the seed thats ever been. In remembrance of his zeal for preaching the Word and seeking the salvation of . . There is only one seed we need to be concerned about- it is the word of God which we are actually reborn with (1 Pt.1:23) not a physical seed of man. prophet bob jones biography prophet bob jones biography (No Ratings Yet) . , Aug. 11, 2010). I saw an angel come on a white horse.(F89, p. 1) EDITORS NOTE: Bob, in another interview, identifies this angel as Gabriel. We had a youth camp there. Occult type Influences seem to common with Jones. After the turn of the millennium Bob's wife, Viola passed away. Facebook, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.facebook.com/vladhungrygen/posts/753777992780266, Furthermore, Pastor Vlad revealed that a revival also broke out on the campus 50 years ago in February 1970., https://www.facebook.com/vladhungrygen/posts/753777992780266, After the dean invited students to share testimonies at the chapel service, students continued worshipping and praying for 144 hours, he said. For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. The 2000's will be the Glory of God. Barry suddenly starts talking about an old Bob Jones prophecy about the "honkers". within statistical power series). That is not a biblical reason for divorce. The show reported that Tiltons ministry threw thousands of unread prayer requests into the trash even though Tilton claimed to pray over them. Bob Jones started having prophetic experiences at the age of 7 years old, and continued to have experiences his entire life. It was an unforgettable and hopeful moment for both the Chiefs and the believers of Christ. But, he says, Im going to minister. And he says, My first task is to get you to believe it. I said, What movement? He said, You dont know nothin, do you? I said, The Lord just told me to come here; I dont know a clue about anything. And that began the bizarre 18-month period of events. And the women of the church began to look at me and said, Dont let him look at your husband. Whats interesting is that this time revival is happening at Asbury College. We discuss how God led him to this decision, his thoughts and feelings behind the decision and we also answer all the questions everyone has about . An amazing man of God and prophet went to Heaven on 2/14/14. 3, No. Wait till you see the next two years! So I knew instantly, the first minute he prophesied his acceptance; so I knew he was the false prophetno question in my mind.. CORRECTED BY OTHER MINISTRIES IN KANSAS CITY UNTIL FOUND BY MIKE BICKLE MB: Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people (ROH, p. 7), The accounts given by Bob Jones about being rejected are untrue. . And BIckle and Bill Johnson are promoting a Second Pentecost which is the coming ONE WORLD CHURCH. The pastor of the church mentioned in the story, and. In this message Bob Jones shares his life story from the very first time that the Lord called him at a young age. Consider what some of the statements mean in relation to the Latter Rain teaching of Jones and associates and to the Bible. A Memorial service will be held for Viola, wife of Bob Jones, at Heritage International Ministries, Fort Mill, South Carolina on Wednesday at 7pm. I said, A movement? He said, Oh, the Lord told me you wouldnt know anything about it. The 1960s reveal the Spirit of God. The memorial program handed my wife and me at Billy's coffin (crafted by prison inmates), said, "Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them" (Rev. . He taught Word-Faith doctrines and promised prosperity and healing to those who supported his ministry and exercised faith. Our primary goal with the FBIS is to provide material to assist preachers in the edification and protection of the churches. Prophecy is primarily for speak(ing) to men for their edification, encouragement, and comfort. The Lost Books Of The Bible: Should We Accept Or Reject? magazine found that two of the people that the Bentley ministry had reported as examples of his best healings had died of their diseases (Heal or Heel,, reported that police suspected drug overdose and that an envelope of white powder believed to be narcotics was found on Tims, but his mother is fighting in court to have the record sealed, claiming that his cause of death would be an embarrassment to her, his children, her grandchildren and his congregation.. Theyll birth the Church,but their children will attain levels of the Holy Spirit that they will not. GODMEN, plural! Jones statements are not only unbiblical but cryptic except to the initiated. And you know there is about a list of 12 people that are the problems why you are here. He said, There will be a resistance and a controversy. but also there was a pull of the youth into immorality, drugs, and alcohol. In 2020, GOD TV reported about Bob Jones prophecy on the Kansas City Chiefs. Looks like we have our future all mapped out and Jesus has told Jones he is not coming for the church in the next 50 years. ), Jones said, He then saw Jesus in the form of a light who would grab and kiss men and women of different ages and then make them disappear by absorbing them into his body! Jones said: all of a sudden, the pain was gone. That was a disturbing word. Much of our material is available for free, such as the hundreds of articles at the Way of Life web site. Jesus said to those who exercise power as a group of prophets in the last days are in grave jeopardy Many will say to me in that day; Lord; Lord HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? Mike Bickle dates the very beginning of their Movement to the first supernatural experiences of Bob Jones, including nearly 100 visions.. She loves children and enjoys blessing them . 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