Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). It may not display this or other websites correctly. Learn how your comment data is processed. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. Makes a fantastic daily driver. Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. His forum name is SG Motorsports. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). Not needed anyhow. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. Learn how your comment data is processed. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. these are quite uncommon. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? Maybe a steering unit from a w210? Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. Learn how your comment data is processed. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. engine alone. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. ugh! Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. I was just giving you a hard time. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? How much power can you get out of the 16v? It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! Use it however you wish or block it off. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. Would you recomend doing this swap? Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. __________________. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Removed the front bumper, upper radiator support, radiator, condenser, and engine harness. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. via Engine Swap Depot Learn how your comment data is processed. Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . It barely sticks now when floored. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). Wow, Thanks for all the info. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! JavaScript is disabled. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? My M104 is a 99 hfm. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? Yup, that's John's car. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. Ive heard opinions that Toyotas 2JZ was heavily inspired by this M104 series, which came out a year before the 2JZ (and ofc the earlier M103 and M110 series from the late 70s). Said it made around 345hp(?) Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. All bolt-in, no welding required. With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. Originally Posted by Kestas. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. Learn how your comment data is processed. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. Navigation Menu. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. What can be done and how much will it cost? Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. You must log in or register to reply here. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. via Oppositelock. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. What engine can fit into this car? 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. JavaScript is disabled. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. You are using an out of date browser. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. Is that a street car? The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Navigation Menu . The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. Well, I am right with you. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. all that accumulated grease and oil. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). :p, What about suspension and the rearend? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. it isnt a direct swap. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. Sweden for a dyno tune. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. 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